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Residents Discuss Alternative to 710 Freeway Projects

Presentation at South Pasadena Public Library offers look into GRID Project.

 

South Pasadena residents and members of a group opposing current plans of extending the 710 Freeway got a glimpse of an ambitious idea that, in concept, would not only provide a green alternative, but also transform the region's transportation infrastructure.

Roughly 20 people gathered at the South Pasadena Public Library to take in a presentation from the No on 710 Action Committee entitled “A Forum on Environmentally Superior Alternatives to Proposed Urban Transportation Projects in the Los Angeles Megaregion.”

The Gabriel River Infrastructure Development (GRID) Project would be a series of projects that would involve undertakings ranging from dramatically reducing truck traffic on freeways to modernizing port systems in place, said David Alba, one of the project's designers. The design would unite infrastructures in trade, energy, communities, goods and transportation, he added.

“What where talking about is linking infrastructure instead of putting it together piecemeal,” said Alba, one of the project’s system designers. “I mention the San Gabriel River, even though we’re talking about the 710, because they both run north and south.”

One of the first major steps of the project would be to use freight-bearing “pipeline technology” under the San Gabriel River network to ease freeway-clogging truck traffic – in theory, forming a subterranean cargo-moving network that would be relatively invisible, noiseless and without pollution. Alba said that freight tunnels have a 100-year history, citing efforts in Chicago on one of his presentation slides.

“This isn’t new technology,” he said. “It’s been done before, and we can do it again.”

The other parts of the GRID Project include an electric commuter line through the San Gabriel River system, clearing out blight along the river by transferring the power lines underground and outfitting ports with a much faster and efficient train unloading system.

There was little talk of cost in the presentation, but Alba said one of the major hurdles in cost analysis was the level of expertise in each of the infrastructures. He also said that whatever the cost would be, it would be shared among various entities. One of the keys for the project would be having it deemed as a “project of national significance” by the U.S. government, which he compared to a city being awarded the Olympics. Once a project has that designation, he said, it gets put on a “fast track” to completion.

And if, many years down the road, the project is a success, Alba said the impact could extend well past what happens with freeways and tunnels.

 “The success will spark the next wave of thinking,” he said. “We are now moving on to the next paradigm. Freeways have, more or less, served their purpose for the 70 years they’ve served the infrastructure.”

And it’s that brand of new thinking that excites Harry Knapp, former mayor and city councilman for South Pasadena, as well as a member of the No on 710 Action Committee.

“We’ve been talking about multi-modal projects since 1992,” he said. “This is the 'nth' degree of multi-modal. All of the projects being talked about now just expand on the current infrastructure. This is ,‘Let’s trash everything and start over.’ Let’s wipe off everything on the table and start over. The system needs something like this. “

Waynna Kato, another South Pasadena resident and member of the No on 710 Action Committee, said a presentation like Alba’s is also a way to show that the committee is aware of its not-in-my-backyard appearance to some.

“We have a NIMBY reputation, and we’re trying to change that,” she said.

What do you think of alternative solutions to the 710 expansion? Tell us in the comments.

Alan Reynolds

9:21 am on Sunday, January 16, 2011

David and his collegue gave an impressive presentation. Its plans like this GRID plan and others in the same vein that will make a 710 freeway extension and expansion completely unessesary. The more we see things like this, the more hope we have as a city of avoiding the 710 altogether.

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Mike Ten

6:16 pm on Monday, January 17, 2011

Alan
How did you hear about this presentation? I saw it pop up hear on Patch for the first time around Thursday night. I sure would have like to been invited to hear this presentation or at least advance notification so I could have rearranged my schedule to be there. Do you have contact info for David or his collegue? We'll at least Patch was present and gave us all some good insight to possible alternatives. But no Cost Benifit Analysis provided? Lets see if we can get them back to do a presentation to the City Council and the entire city can see it on Cable.
thanks again

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Ron Rosen

7:09 pm on Monday, January 17, 2011

The meeting was announced in the South Pasadena Review on January 12, Mr. Mayor. You do read the Review carefully don't you? I guess you're not on the mailing list of the "No 710 Action Committee." Not sure why that is, but it could be because there's a perception that you really do want the 710 completed in some form. They really don't trust you. My guess is that there's a reason for that.

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laura kirakosian

1:07 pm on Tuesday, January 18, 2011

The GRID project sounds like a proactive solution to a traffic clutter that we all are facing on the daily bases. Look at how much traffic tension The English Channel has released in Europe for the last 17 years. The GRID project sounds like The English Channel project on a much smaller scale. I hope it won't take as long to get aproved.
WOW, Mr.Alba, the best of luck in your venture; we so need a change!
Laura

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Jan Czecznye

8:21 pm on Thursday, January 20, 2011

A long tunnel freeway under South Pas is a boondoggle deathtrap, but tunneling the railroads under the rest of the region, that's visionary genius? Something doesn't add up here.

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Hugh Hemington

6:48 pm on Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Finally, a SANE solution! Moving rail freight in tunnels is no less of a terrorist threat than an underground freeway, except that fewer people will be at risk. Also, we won't be living under a smoke stack belching SOOT. (I sweep soot from the 110 fwy EVERY DAY already thanks!)

The 710 extension, (originally intended to be routed down Los Robles Street!) has been a bone of contention my entire life. Our town has suffered the property tax deficit from the State's bullying and onerous cost of fighting our own government, bent on sacrificing our town on the altar of internal combustion.

Maybe I'll live to see this fight end?

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Jami Hurst

11:27 pm on Monday, January 30, 2012

I am really unhappy and skeptical of this project. There is already a 40 mile bike path that runs from Azusa Canyon to Seal Beach along the San Gabriel River – Its called the San Gabriel River Bike Path!!! I have ridden on it every weekend for the last 15 years – and the path has existed for near 50 years, as my dad rode on it as a child! This bike path is already wonderful (housing, parks, ect.) – I am training on a team to be a professional cyclist, and many great and professional riders use this route! Thousands of people every weekend! I fear this project will destroy my cycling life forever!! Tearing down this river is a major mistake!
Also – what are these people going to do – “eminent domain” everyone’s houses, schools and businesses?! How can they say this will create jobs and add housing, when there is already no room for this project without tearing down people’s lives to build it?!

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