Do You Feel Safe Crossing South Pas Streets?

A 72-year-old man was killed Sunday after being hit by a vehicle at Pasadena Avenue and Arroyo Drive. Do you feel safe crossing streets in South Pas? Check out our map, and share your thoughts.

A recent pedestrian fatality at Pasadena Avenue and Arroyo Drive has prompted a group of residents to start a petition asking for larger signs/signals to protect pedestrians and drivers at that intersection. 

"They need a signal there," one woman, who was at the scene of the accident, commented on Patch. "It's a terrible corner. I was trying to stop and divert traffic so nobody else got hurt, people were flying right up to us." 

Officer Jeff Holland of SPPD's Traffic Division told Pasadena Star-News that pedestrian deaths happen "occasionally" in South Pasadena.  

He also said there hasn't been a pedestrian death in the Arroyo Drive crosswalk in the 17 years he's been on the force.

Patch Asks: Do you feel South Pas crosswalks are safe for pedestrians? Which intersections are safe? Which are you nervous to cross? Zoom in on the above map, and add your thoughts. 

Here's how it works:

1. Click the "Add" button in the upper righthand corner of the map. 

2. Under "Location," create an "Entry Name" (for instance: "safe intersection" or "needs a stoplight") and fill in the "Address."

3. Under the "Details" tab, explain yourself whether it be suggesting an alternate route or providing a safe solution in the "Description" box. 

5. Do you have photos or a YouTube video to share? Click on "Choose File" to upload your visuals under the "Media" tab. 

6. All done? You can "Preview" and then "Submit" using the tabs at the bottom of the box. 

spidra July 26, 2012 at 11:51 PM
I hope you reported the cyclist to the police. However, please don't think that one cyclist = all cyclists any more than one motorist = all motorists. We don't usually view the actions of one careless and/or aggressive car driver as being representative of all car drivers but for some reason we generalize with abandon when it comes to people who use other forms of transportation. I am for increased police enforcement of traffic laws on all road/sidewalk users: pedestrians, cyclists, car drivers, skateboarders, etc. If the laws on the books were enforced more often, there'd be less carelessness and downright dangerous behavior on our streets.
spidra July 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM
To Melissa M: Actually, the law about cycling on sidewalks is different in different towns and counties. In some places in CA, anyone under 12 is *required* to ride on the sidewalk. Riding on the sidewalk is not illegal in all situations in South Pasadena. I'm not saying every cyclist bones up on their cycling law, but even if they did it would be difficult to tell what the law is saying they should do in that particular place. Witness these: http://ladotbikeblog.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/la-county-sidewalk-riding-part-5/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_law_in_California Things that would result in less riding on sidewalks by adult cyclists would be: (1) Cycling education in schools. We teach people safe driving. Safe & legal cycling needs to be taught as well. It isn't because our society still treats it as a "toy" rather than transportation. (2) Making our roads safe for all road users - pedestrians, cyclists, skaters, motorists. If they're unsafe, of course people are going to get up on the sidewalk because they'd rather pay a fine than get hit by a truck. South Pasadena has a bike master plan as do surrounding cities. As our infrastructure gets better, hopefully the roads & sidewalks will be safer for our citizens. (3) Educating motorists to the bike part of CA vehicle code. I've had motorist yell at me "Get on the sidewalk!" Clearly they don't know much about bike law. (4) Increased enforcement of laws for cars, bikes, peds, etc.
Sam Burgess July 27, 2012 at 03:11 AM
Ginger, Whenever there is a blog on a sensative issue I try to remain respectful even when I disagree with the commenter. I do not always succeed. Your comment is a lot of nonsense! The USA is NOT the only country to give pedestrians the right of way. In most European countries motorists have the right of way EXCEPT at official pedestrian crossing points. Admittedly this does not mean that motorists in Europe as in the US cede the right of way. (Remember, this tragic accident happened while the pedestrian was in a legal & well marked cross walk). And how would giving motorists the right of way--even at legal cross walks--relieve stress on motorists & then, by extension, lower road rage? Are you saying that if they kill a pedestrian in a cross walk they will not be held responsible and thus will have less stress--and less road rage? ...and what common sense was the innocent pedestrian not using? Your comments are an insult to the family of the pedestrian needlessly killed while legally crossing the street! While I admit I do not know what your major/primary mode of transportation is, I would guess it is not as a pedestrian.
Melissa M. July 27, 2012 at 03:42 PM
I have to kind of agree with Sam on this Ginger. If motorists had the right of way versus Pedestrians, when would pedestrians get a chance to cross anywhere? In any given Urban area there is NEVER a break in traffic. Along with the issues Sam brought up.The crosswalk in question here is in the tricky area. I tried crossing myself there yesterday and when you are coming from the South heading North on it, the view around the corner to watch for approaching cars is obstructed if there are cars parked along the road. Not to mention that people book it around that corner in what I think is an attempt to avoid waiting for the train. IMO, the speed limit leading up to that intersection needs to be lowered to 25MPH and it needs to be monitored more closely by authorities. Putting up a red flashing pedestrian light would also help the problem. Most important of all? BOTH PEDESTRIAN AND MOTORIST NEED TO LOOK OUT FOR EACH OTHER! All too often in my line of work, I'm met with frustration from drivers when I'm crossing the road. Sometimes they even yell and honk at me. This needs to stop. I realize you will never be able to get everyone to follow the rules of the road, but giving out tickets is a great motivation for drivers to start paying attention. And most of all? Avoid devastating a Family for the rest of their lives. A car can be a horrible weapon. And contrary to popular belief? Driving is a priviledge, not a right. It should be treated as such to avoid another tragedy.
Marie August 19, 2012 at 05:18 PM
Last Sunday I was almost mowed down by a black cadillac with black windows WHILE I WAS ALREADY IN THE CROSSWALK AT THE 4 WAY STOP at El Centro where Kaldi and the Library are! I yelled at the driver to no avail. I was literally 3 or 4 steps into the crosswalk when the car sped past me. I'm not sure they even stopped at their stop sign. Same goes for people BLOWING through the stop sign at Meridian and Hope (turning both ways, either from Meridian, left onto Hope to avoid the train, or from Hope turning right onto Meridian). I'm not talking about the creepers. I'm talking about the people who don't even ATTEMPT to stop at the stop sign. I can't COUNT the number of times I've had to dodge those idiot, law-breaking drivers. Or the ones who speed up and down Meridian in excess of 40mph. Went to a town meeting and was informed that if they city sees that people regularly drive faster on a street, INSTEAD OF ENFORCING THE LAW, THEY RAISE THE SPEED LIMIT! HOW IDIOTIC IS THAT?!?!?!


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